Updated: 15 Mar 14
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IngridI was especially pleased to meet presenter Glenn Steckling's mother, a quiet, unassuming German woman with a surprising story about her experience among thousands of others witnessing a gigantic space ship hovering silently over Berlin just after WWII. This event gave those dispirited witnesses a surprising sense of peace and hope amid the rubble of that destroyed city.
|Ingrid at George Adamski Foundation booth|
Alan G. TomanI also met another contactee and friend of Glenn, Alan G. Tolman, a US Marine veteran of the Korean War, who, with the troops of his combat division, witnessed a UFO surveying the Allied main line of resistance during the 1950-51 period. Tolman had been fascinated by UFOs since high school in 1947.
In 1954, Tolman met George Adamski after reading a newspaper account of Adamski's first direct encounter with ETs and a scout craft near Desert Center in the southern California desert on November 20, 1952. Not long after meeting Adamski, Tolman met his first ET while working at Douglas Aircraft in El Segundo, California. As Tolman tells the story, he was standing in line in the company cafeteria when he heard his name "Alan" spoken in his mind. Thinking it was the guy behind him he asked what he wanted, but it was not him. Tolman heard his name again spoken in his mind and looked around to see a man 5 or 6 persons back smiling and waving. After Tolman took his food to a table the man came over and asked Tolman if he could join him. After a brief getting acquainted the man (Tolman refers to him as "Dan") began to tell Tolman details about Tolman's life as a child that only his mother could have known. After 'Dan' had spoken to Alan in his mind, Alan asked Dan not to do that any more. I was puzzled, if not amused, at Tolman's reluctance to communicate by telepathy.
Still later in the 1955-56 period, while visiting Adamski, Tolman witnessed the landing of a scout craft on Adamski's property in southern California, which was near Cal Tech's Mount Palomar Observatory, which houses the famous Hale 200-inch telescope.
Shortly after meeting Dan, Tolman was visited by two government agents, who identified themselves to Tolman'a satisfaction. One was from Navy intelligence and the other from the CIA. Both men knew of Tolman's conversations with "Dan" and encouraged him to disclose his interest and contact experience. When Tolman asked why the men didn't disclose the subject themselves, they explained they were not permitted to do so, but he could.John Alexander's presentation "UFOs: Science or Science Fiction?" was for me too rapid to follow without having prior knowledge of his newest book: UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies, and Realities. But he was able to explain why the military and other governmental agencies aren't interested in dealing with the UFO phenomenon these days, even though they continue to study it. His book goes into great detail and gives names. Alexander is a retired US Army colonel and was closely associated with the Stargate program. He did his doctoral work under the direction of Elizabeth Kubler Ross.
Stephen BassettStephenBassett's presentation was electrifying. He presented his PRG plan to 'checkmate' the government's refusal to end its "Truth Embargo" of the disclosure of UFOs this coming spring. This is not the same issue as Alexander's, which is that the DOD does not find the UFO phenomenon a threat to national security, which is why Congress will not fund further investigations. But the Truth Embargo reveals the government's fear of embarrassment for its lack of ultimate control over their nuclear weapons launch facilities. Both US and Russian nuclear weapons facilities have been disabled at strategic times in recent decades by ET ships, which obviously gives notice to both governments. The Russian president (Medvedyev) has admited this. [See Russian documentary.] The US president has not.
"I think the US government at high level realizes the ET are here, that they will not interfere with what we do, and the ET will gradually be accepted no matter what the US government does. Therefore, there is no point in stirring up the crazies with an announcement. In addition, the message of the ET is in conflict with US policy. If sane people knew the message, the Military-Industrial Complex would have to be dismantled while the crazies would insist it be increased. The US government does not want this debate to distract from their policies. According to John Alexander, most people in the military have no interest in the subject. I find this to be the general response of people I talk to. Interesting, but so what?"
Ted Peters gave a surprisingly comprehensive opening presentation on the subject "UFO Abductions: Are They Spiritual?" Peters teaches systematic theology at Pacific Lutheran Theological Seminary and the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley, California. In introducing myself just after his presentation and mentioning my 2012 Sunstone Symposium paper "How the Bomb corrupted the World and How Mormons and American Indian Shamans Can Help Save It" he asked for a copy, which after receiving it, his kind and focused response was: "Keep those Los Alamos scientists honest, and bring us world peace." Ed responded: "Nice idea". I learned later that Peters had visited Los Alamos years ago.
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My main purpose in attending the International UFO Congress was to enable me to interest and inform young people here in Los Alamos about the UFO phenomenon and its significance. Even though the subject is far out to most people, it never fails to interest young people, many of whom seem to experience a lack of meaning and indifference towards the standard educational system these days. Too many are simply bored with life and cannot envision a hopeful future. An end to the "Truth Embargo" on several fronts, beginning with the government and extending into the educational system, would surely serve as a motivating wake up call.
Two Policy StatementsThus, I see two major policy statements, which ought to be made in this country:
First: By the US President: "We are not alone."
Second: By the LDS (Mormon) Church President: "We have made mistakes."
I believe the second statement must come before the first, because of the political leverage that institution holds (let alone I was born and raised in this institution and excommunicated for challenging it). Continuing to claim to be "the only true Church on the face of the earth" is an arrogance that helps anchor the entrenchment of the Truth Embargo. But, being willing to make that simple second policy statement would tip the balance of good governance towards transparency and courage, which could encourage the US president to end the Embargo.
Glenn StecklingOf the two presentations that had been of special personal interest before coming to the conference, the most important was by Glenn Steckling titled "UFOs, ET Visitations; Adamski Revisited".
PS. As an aside, the night before attending the conference, Ed and I had dinner with my first cousin Rodney and his wife, Nyla, both active believing Mormons, who live in Phoenix. I was surprised to learn that Nyla is the aunt of Travis Walton, perhaps the most well-known abductee, whose powerful story was featured in the 1993 Hollywood film "Fire in the Sky".
Travis Walton came to Los Alamos on June 12, 2012 to give an update on his experience. I came away from his presentation feeling that, as he has reflected on what had happened to him in the intervening years, his understanding has changed. Rather than accepting his experience as an 'abduction', he now experiences it as a 'rescue' from having been inadvertently zapped. He has also made a successful industry of his experience, having written a book about it that is now in apparent high demand in a new edition after being out of print for many years.
At his presentation in Los Alamos, Walton produced an artifact of evidence that I found compelling. It was a photograph of a coring of several evergreen trees taken by the National Geographic of trees near the site where Walton had been zapped. These trees were 100+ years old, so it was easy to see the regular spacing of the rings over the years and to correlate annual growth rings and their dates. The evidence showed that from 1975 to about 1992, there was an anomalous acceleration of tree growth rate! It was a dramatically obvious change to the naked eye to see the ring spacing suddenly accelerate to what appeared to be at least twice the normal rate and then gradually return to a regular pattern as before. The year 1975 is the year of Walton's experience and the effect on the surroundings--at least the trees that were examined--was to accelerate growth, NOT a destructive effect as one might have been supposed, given Walton's initial fearful encounter.
On March 3, 2014, Rex Mitchell wrote:
I don't quite understand how a report to the school board and county council would achieve your purpose, "to enable me to interest and inform young people here in Los Alamos about the UFO phenomenon and its significance. ..Too many are simply bored with life and cannot envision a hopeful future."On 4 March, Glenn Steckling responded to Rex:
As you said, the young already tend to be interested in this area. If what several of the presenters said is correct, then the ETs are here and don't want much contact and won't cause problems. What implications does that have for the young to envision a hopeful future?
As you know, I am skeptical about why an unbelievably advanced civilization would have more than passing interest in such a minor planet, around a third-rate star, in a remote corner of a second-rate galaxy - enough to hang around for many decades. I'm also skeptical about why such a civilization could not manage to avoid sporadic, unplanned, visual contact. If they wanted contact, then I would expect them to arrange it. Having only occasional, stochastic contacts with a only a few random individuals does not seem very intelligent or planned.
Whether perceived boredom, or merely total exasperation with the follies of previous generations, the opportunity to envision and finally partake of “Actual”, and not merely promised, greater and tangible future opportunities through understanding and enhancement of the human condition implemented by space exploration encompasses the entire spectrum of individual and combined planetary talents. The challenge of this momentous task transcends ALL fields, alleviating divisions and barriers that often manipulate us every day. Space exploration provides insights and advancements in to virtually all arenas: political, electronics, aerodynamics, computers, programming, construction, environmental, medical, farming, and worldwide economics, - a list far too extensive to compose - alleviating the crushing dependency on military industrialization and aggressive implementation as our primary means of tenuous economic support. Space based industries provide nearly a 4 to 1 return for every dollar spent, something conveniently overlooked by Congress, the Military, and associated institutions which have a vested interest in diverting those funds, and placating an already comatose public. The opportunities of such progressive, euphoric and heroic space initiatives should cause even the most detached to feel hopeful. It certainly did when President Kennedy committed this entire nation to this endeavor heart and soul.
Skepticism has its place, critical thinking too, but so does rationalism. This argument represents the trap of far off distances, which has been discussed many times, and preferable to many academic minds all too accepting of a single, controlled data source. By shifting and refocusing our space program, and the public’s perception away from our own solar system and "human" exploration - shifting it on too deep space, the psychological barrier of detachment prevails. Everything is perceived as too far away or remote, we as too insignificant, time as too momentous, etc.
First of all, not to take this into the more complex than necessary, our ET friends have been engaged already as far back as FDR, with an abundance of evidence suggests much further. Presented to every administration, Military organization, Theological denomination, seen over every major city, tracked and photographed in every nation worldwide. Kennedy, Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Clinton has been but a few who self-divulged to at least sightings, if not more. The plethora and saturation of contact has if fact been a major problem for our agencies ordered to ignore or deny this very existence. So if anyone is involved with deterring progressive advancement, and micro managing the future, it is certainly not E.T., but rather those here who manipulate the progress of events within our own society. The problem has not been their willingness to be seen, filmed, photographed, examined, interacted with, etc, but by our governing bodies and agencies mandate to live up to their responsibilities and to pass down this information to the public, who can then decide what THEY WANT FOR A CHANGE.
On 5 March 14, AM, Eugene answers Rex:
I (ENK) asked Glenn Steckling to review this blog and correct anything he found amiss from his point of view. He corrected Alan Tolman's story by sending signed copies of Tolman's account, which I will amplify in subsequent updates here. Alan is also sending me additional information, which I will add as it arrives. Glenn also then wrote the above response specifically to your comments. I want to point out some specific assumptions and questions you make and ask that Glenn addresses.
1. (Rex) "...the ETs are here and don't want much contact and won't cause problems."
(ENK) That's not quite right. They DO want contact, but they have learned to be wary, as Glenn points out.
2. (Rex) "What implications does that have for the young to envision a hopeful future?"
(ENK) In Los Alamos there have been a series of suicides of young people that address your question. I have been concerned about this issue for years and believe the current school system is partially at fault and must be willing and able to address it.
3. (Rex) "I am skeptical about why an unbelievably advanced civilization would have more than passing interest in such a minor planet, around a third-rate star, in a remote corner of a second-rate galaxy - enough to hang around for many decades."
(ENK) Again, Glenn addresses this.
4. (Rex) "I'm also skeptical about why such a civilization could not manage to avoid sporadic, unplanned, visual contact. "
(ENK) Glenn has addressed this well, I think, but not completely. I will have more to say about this in later comments.
5. (Rex) "If they wanted contact, then I would expect them to arrange it. Having only occasional, stochastic contacts with a only a few random individuals does not seem very intelligent or planned."
(ENK) Another assumption that the facts belie, as Glenn points out. I suggest you acquire George Adamski's three books, namely 1. Flying Saucers Have Landed; 2. Inside the Space Ships; 3. Flying Saucers Farewell. In my opinion #2 is the most important if you had to choose only one.
On 5 Mar 14, 4:00 PM, Glenn wrote:
No doubt I will forfeit my ambassadorial skills yet again. : ) but as the old saying goes, “Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is still the truth.” Over the decades, the greatest concern with these types of UFO Conferences and associated types of meetings is multifold, and we have exercised caution at not participating in too many. Whilst it is productive to invoke discussion and beneficial to study the many facets of the human minds expressions, such discussions must have purpose and legitimacy. Much of that has evaporated long ago. On several levels, we see the purposeful repetition of misinformation designed to confuse and redirect. In substitution for fact and reality, there is rampant speculation, theorizing, and opinions offered up as truth to an apathetic and naïve audience. I see this on TV programs related to UFOs all the time. So called experts saying, well it - could be - “this”, or “that”, or “whatever”, when in reality they don’t know anything and should be quiet until they can definitely produce otherwise. Yet it always amazes me how many continue to fall for this. The spectacle of jockeying “experts”, when in reality, none exist, and even fewer willing to admit, “I don’t know”, thus a state of total confusion prevails … A free for all of anything goes, no one held accountable or responsible for their statements. A situation, ladies and gentlemen, so designed on purpose! Small pieces of the truth may surface, for those who can recognize it, but nothing of substance.
Next, the abusive marketing and marketeers who have also descended upon this subject to exploit, most of which having nothing to do with anything involving this subject, i.e, Astrologists, Crystal sellers, Aura promoters, New Agers, and God knows what other paraphernalia marketers. Never one to mince words, and to concur with what Adamski, my father and their space contacts have been asked and made clear face to face, let us be exact! Little to none of this has anything to do with tangible UFO / ET activity or scientific discovery. Where there is the perpetration of mysticism, secret societies and agendas, crop circles, holographic projections, witchcraft, etc, such is produced by “US” here on this world, and has nothing to do with them. Where there are stories of horrific cruelty, force, barbarism, experimentations, mutilations, inseminations, etc, this once again is “US” and nothing to do with any of them. When we are told fables of Science fiction familiarities, such as Stargates, multi dimensions, Inter- dimensional shifting, time travel, Alien Big Foots, genetic procurement and engineering, genome harvesting, etc, such is once again products of our own internal fantasies and ignorance’s of the simplest of life’s principles, and has absolutely nothing to do the truth concerning what exists beyond this world.
No longer does any government or agencies have to worry much about much which surfaces concerning this subject. In fact they barely even monitor it anymore, for as planned and initiated long ago, the internally subjugation and resulting circus has produced more destruction and mayhem than they could have possible hoped for. Remember this as one surfs through the plethora of information being promoted these days.On 5 Mar 14, 4:32, Glenn wrote again:
...The conditions existing within our solar system are evolving constantly. Not basically in themselves, but in our willingness to reveal and accept them. Remember not too long ago, that the last set of Martian lander instruments tested in the Atacoma Desert in Chile reported there is no life on planet Earth. Dr. Jastrow, project Viking in the 1970's' reported proof of microbiological life on Mars already at this first mission. Now we have water, temperature variations hot to cold similar to that of Earth's, Atmosphere, O2, etc.
Some of this replicated on our Moon as well. The same challenges exist with the discontinuity of information concerning Venus and Saturn. If there is any great secret that our officials are determined to keep at any cost, [it] is the existence of intelligent life on our neighboring planets. This admission changes everything, and challenges our power structure to its deepest levels.
On 5 Mar 14, 5:30 PM, Rex responded to Eugene:
Your 2nd point re local student suicides seems important. My point was and is that I don't see the connection between a report on the conference and helping that problem.
Your other four points refer me to Glenn's piece for answers. His first two paragraphs advocate a renewed space exploration program (which I support; I worked in the space industry from 1959-1978, a good time). In the last paragraph, I find only partial, and unsupported, answers to some of my questions. His central, far-reaching contention needs to be established with hard evidence, not just the writings of George Adamski and other true-believers: "...with an abundance of evidence suggests much further. Presented to every administration, Military organization, Theological denomination, seen over every major city, tracked and photographed in every nation worldwide. Kennedy, Nixon, Carter, Ford, Reagan, Clinton has (sic) been but a few who self-divulged to at least sightings, if not more. The plethora and saturation of contact has if fact been a major problem..."On 5 Mar 14, 6:00 PM, Eugene wrote:
I hope this exchange between Glenn Steckling and Rex Mitchell will resolve many questions that readers may have. I know these two men personally and value their friendship. I perceive them both as honest, competent and well motivated. For that reason I encourage them both to be as rigorous as they are capable until the questions are answered to each other's (and my) satisfaction. I cannot believe that our space friends are anything but delighted to see such a communication take place!
To be continued...