Sunday, September 12, 2010

Fourth of July handclasp

Posted: 12 September 2010; Updated: 3 April 2011

Below is a CDL interview of a dream on July 4, 2010. When I awoke from this dream, it seemed a spiritual message that reversed my earlier decision not to attend the LDS Los Alamos Ward unless the spirit overrode it. I decided to attend again their early morning fast and testimony meeting. When I arrived at the church, I met a man (George J) that strongly resembled the figure in the parking lot.

Later that same Sunday, July 4, during a discussion at St. Dimitri parish with the president of the parish council, I received a miraculous cell phone call from my estranged son, Michael, of my second family, announcing the birth of his first child, a son, who would be named later after he and his wife got to know him.


IDL Interview
Date of interview:  17 September 2010

What are three fundamental life issues that you are dealing with now in your life?

1. Bringing the Los Alamos Deep Democracy Open Forum into reality.
2. Activating personal/professional website.
3. Updating the RPK website.

Tell me a dream you remember... (Or, choose a strong feeling or symptom…)

4 July 2010
Two related dreams.
a) (Earlier fragment): Have been brought to Los Alamos Ward building by wife in small car and left there while she returned home.  I had been inside the building with group of younger men (teenagers) singing in harmony and am now trying to find my car to leave, but can't find it.
CREEI score: ?+?+?-//+++/+++  Anticipatory

b) In (blue?) van in parking lot at LDS Church (looks like Los Alamos Ward) with group of LDS ex-spooks (military, CIA, FBI, etc.). Some have had psychedelic experiences.  A man comes over to van to encourage us to come into the building. I'm sitting in driver's seat and motion him to the driver's window. The man (reminds me of George J) comes over and takes my right hand, which I've extended through the window in a clasp of friendship. I say, "I'll tell you what I want and that is to do what the Lord wants." The man lets go of my hand without reflecting on what I've just said and says, "Well the Lord wants you to come into that building."
CREEI score: ++++++//+++/+++   Transformative, comforting, confirming

Why do you think that you had this life experience?
I have been attempting to develop a positive, productive relationship with the new bishop of this LDS ward. This is because of my dream of April 15, where my mother suggests involving "Del Clawson people." I believe the new bishop may be one of these. In our first meeting in his office in May 2010, he began the conversation by telling me a dream from two or three years ago that had to do with his coming to this ward.

The April 15 dream was particularly important for me because this was the first time I have dreamed of my mother since May 1965, which turned out to be a pivotal dream in my relationship with both her and the Mormon Church. In those days mother was alive. My father had died almost exactly a year earlier. The May 1965 dream, which I call Round Table Fury, presented a situation with the inner reality of her that I had been unaware of, and our outer relationship soon became negative. In the April 2010 dream this inner relationship has obviously been transformed and she suggests engaging the "Del Clawson people". This was a helpful suggestion, since Del Clawson (her first cousin whom she knew well) was a legendary conservative Republican Congressman from Southern California, who was elected seven times from a heavily black, Democratic district and who retired never having lost an election.

On Sunday, May 2, I attended a fast and testimony meeting in this ward because of having met Bishop Ian Alexander a week or two earlier, and was moved to go to the podium to tell the story of when Oscar McConkie, Jr. set me apart for a U of Utah stake mission in fall 1961 including the startling words that he spoke to me in that blessing. ["The Lord is aware of you and of the desires of your heart. He will step out of his regular pattern to bless you in an especial way. You will know of a certainty what your work is before this mission is through!"] I also told the story of being with my newly found relatives in Ukraine in 2007, having last told this very congregation about finding them in 1995 after 75 years of not knowing. What prompted me to go to the podium was having noted that the text of the opening hymn "I believe in Christ" was written by Bruce R. McConkie, Oscar's older brother and then hearing ward member and mission leader Lawry Mann's testimony about the circumstances under which Bruce R wrote the text to that hymn.

My getting up to speak was against the rules of the church, since I am an excommunicated member. But the bishop ended the meeting saying that although many church rules had been broken in that meeting (others had spoken about subjects not normally allowed), the Spirit was powerfully in the room and thus it was acceptable to the Lord.

However, in subsequent correspondence the bishop reminded me I was not to speak or take the Sacrament as long as I was in an excommunicated status. Because of that I vowed not to attend that ward again until that status had been rigorously reviewed or unless my decision was "overruled by the Spirit". I accepted this dream as the Spirit overruling that decision and again attended the fast and testimony meeting later that morning.

Furthermore, I had recently been at an IRVA (International Remote Viewing Association) conference in Las Vegas (June 18-20) for the purpose of meeting its president, an active LDS high priest and former US Army (and CIA) intelligence officer, whom I had known many years earlier.

If it were playing at a theater, what name would be on the marquee?
Clasp of Friendship

These are the characters in the experience…
Los Alamos Ward and parking lot. Blue van. Group of young LDS ex-spooks. George J.

If a character had something especially important to tell you, which would it be?
George J

(Character,) would you please tell me what you look like and what you are doing?
I am a 68 year old man, recently retired from the Los Alamos National Laboratory after 33 years. I was converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints soon after I came here to Los Alamos and at the age of 29. Before then I was agnostic. I have just been called to be the new ward mission leader. I am in good physical shape and am an enthusiastic missionary.

What do you like most about yourself in this experience? What are your strengths?
I am an energetic mission leader with the belief that the Holy Spirit is the only thing that can solve the intractable attitude currently present at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. My strengths are my commitment and determination.

What do you dislike most about yourself? Do you have weaknesses? What?
I sometimes have dreams that are a trouble to me, so I ignore them. It is not a subject I value. 

If you could change this experience in any way you wanted, would you? If so, how would you change it?
I would have Eugene and his wife join the Church and become active members.

If that experience were to continue, what would happen next?
As I said, I would have Eugene and his wife Birgitta attend my Sunday School class on Gospel Essentials.

(Character,) if you could be anywhere you wanted to be and take any form you desired, would you change? If so, how?
Oh, I enjoy where I am and what form I am in now. It is the perfect place for me!

(You are in this person’s dream or life experience, correct? He/she created you, right?)
Well, yes, he created me in part. I was thrilled to hear he had dreamed of me. But I have a life of my own outside of his inner world.

(Character), what aspect of this person do you represent or most closely personify?
His enthusiasm for the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

If you could live this person’s waking life for him/her, how would you live it differently?
Well of course! He would rejoin the LDS Church.

If you could live this person’s waking life for him/her today, would you handle his/her three life issues differently? If so, how?
Actually, I don't see that his life issues are what I would choose for him at all! I suggest he begin with rejoining the LDS Church and bringing his wife with him. That would be all he need do to be in tune with the Lord and his only authorized church.

What three life issues would you focus on if you were in charge of his/her life?
1. Rejoin the LDS Church
2. Convert his wife to the LDS Church
3. Become actively involved in the LDS Church

How would you score yourself 0-10, in confidence, compassion, wisdom, acceptance, peace of mind, and witnessing? And why?
Confidence: 10. I am completely in tune with the Lord and the LDS Church.
Compassion: 5. I am afraid that I am not always able to deal with others who cannot see the benefits of the LDS Church.
Wisdom: 5. I rely on the wisdom of my LDS Church leaders.
Acceptance: 4. It is hard for me to understand why other do not see that the perfect solution to their lives would be in being members of the LDS Church.
Peace of Mind: 5. As I said before, I sometimes have troubling dreams.
Witnessing: 10. I witness the Gospel of Jesus Christ as taught by the LDS Church at every opportunity I can find.

(Character,) if you scored tens in all six of these qualities, would you be different? If so, how?
Well, I would surely be different! For openers I would know better how to relate to Eugene in his fallen and alienated state. I would also be able to persuade Birgitta to come to the LDS Church.

How would this person’s life be different if he/she naturally scored high in all six of these qualities all the time?
I'm sure Eugene would become an effective Church and civic leader.

In what life situations would it be most beneficial for this person to imagine that he/she is you and act as you would?
That is something I cannot imagine at this time.

Why do you think that you are in this life experience (or dream)?
To show him that what the Lord wants for him is that he find the truth in the LDS Church.

(Dreamer,) what have you heard yourself say? (Read them over)
I have encountered an enthusiastic inner figure very much involved in the Mormon Church who can be of great service if somehow he can transform some his less developed core qualities.

If this experience were a wake-up call from your soul, what do you think it would be saying to you?
Be careful whom you choose in the Mormon community to be a part of your LADDOF project. Mormons can be of great service and help, but be more discerning about who is one of the "Del Clawson people".


On September 18, 2010, Joseph Dillard, creator of the IDL methodology, wrote:
Dear Eugene,
I think this is a good summary.  You have within you true believer self-aspects that try to convince you that all your problems will be solved if you only listen to them. That's why we interview numerous self-aspects - so an internal cabal doesn't steal the agenda away from the majority of self-aspects.  The way you get leverage on this Jennings self-aspect is to ask several other previously interviewed self-aspects that you trust (internal sangha members) what they think of what he has said. 
I would also be interested in sometime seeing/reading an interview with the LDS Church itself, particularly in how it relates to other self-aspects that are not true believers, yet are high scoring.  Then I would be interested in hearing how those other self-aspects respond.
My general take is that you are not going to get cooperation from LDS minds like Jennings for projects that transcend and include Mormonism, like your Deep Democracy Open Forum, unless they see it as a way to convert others to the True Faith.  Since that is not only unlikely, but not a purpose of the group, my general tendency is to say that you are pissing into the wind on this one.
love,
Joseph
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Sunday, September 5, 2010

Third meeting with new LDS bishop

Event: 22 August 2010; Updated: 5 September 2010

On August 22, the Sunday after our return from Bimini, the dolphins and interviewing various of our dreams with Joseph Dillard and his IDL (Integral Deep Listening) methodology, I met again with Ian Alexander, new bishop of the Los Alamos LDS ward. This was primarily to get a reality check on my dream of him earlier in the month, before our trip to Bimini.

Joseph counselled me to come to the meeting mindful of two other self-aspect dream characters (besides Bp Alexander), which were "Hippie Woman" (a character I'd met decades earlier in an "anticipatory" dream) and "Del Clawson" (my second cousin and legendary LDS politician). Whether I took Joseph's counsel during my meeting with Bishop Alexander remains to be seen. The IDL interview aboard the Indigo near Bimini, of the August 4 dream with all these characters, can be seen here